Lately( actually the trend goes about a year back), the entire spn cast and crew took the high road out and stepped back into the position of quiet power and non communication. While I do not believe that this is a falut of any parts of the fandom it self ( too many fractions and too many differing stands on everything aggravated by casual hate and wank), it shows, that there seems to be no effective way of dealing with this. Because by taking this step back, the creators have ceased to listen to it’s fanbase and will not learn, evolve or change in any way by existing in vacuum and no feedback.( feedback they would listen to, anyway)
Now, I do not have any answers, but has to be a way, right? For everyone to be happy? Because while I understand, that they do not wish us to question every move they make and label every character before they even appear on screen, I believe some constructive feedback should really be available for them in a form they could understand. And while the GA mostly provides this with ratings, I do not believe that this is enough. General audience does not have a continued interest in the show and will leave the minute they do not like it without a second thought, or explanation as to why. They do not provide feedback. They only say Y/N. There is no learning curve and no space for improvement. No one gets better by continuing to do the same thing over and over.
Critics and blogs do give some ideas, but they are mostly character or arch driven and do not get much into the problematic parts of representation, feminism and social issues. ( of course, again, I am sure there are those, who do) Well, some blogs on tumblr do, but I see no reflecting characters, or changes on SPN - do you? I am not sure what they take away from us ( us -> tumblr fandom). Perhaps just the overall interest in certain characters or arcs? IDK.
So, while I understand, that there can be no one single person to tell them what they did wrong, perhaps the fandom in general could be doing this en mass and ensure that they hear. That slightly redefines the ususal function of fandom as I personally know it at this point ( because the very definition of fandom is to provide feedback, right!?) , but not much and it could be actually useful this way. To sort of go back to the roots and do it properly. For everyone. Perhaps instead of wanting certain characters dead or trying to get the writers to listen about relationships, or favorites, we should from now on try to find exactly what is wrong and why and send this as a feedback,.I understand, that we can not all keep constructive at all times and it would be impossible to think, that everyone would attempt to do this….
I honestly believe that if after an episode airs and the writer - whoever it - is would receive a feedback, that consists of parts of fandom who like it, parts of people who did not !and! a substantial part of people who provide actual, polite, constructive feedback on any problematic parts of said episode - they might try and do better next time. I mean, it could be worth a try, right??
I know some people are trying to do this already, but I think it’s not enough. We should try harder and more. And to be kind and polite. And call it out. Without feedback, there will never be change. It might not work, of course. But it seems to be more constructive and useful to the entirety of the fandom as well, as education of the writers and anyone who would read and benefit from those messages.
I will shut up now. It just feels like we are all now stuck in vacuum and no one knows what is happening exactly…And with new season coming up, this could be a very good way to get back into their ‘graces’ and to a better way of communicating with the show…xxxxx
“Writing and reading fanfiction isn’t just something you do; it’s a way of thinking critically about the media you consume, of being aware of all the implicit assumptions that a canonical work carries with it, and of considering the possibility that those assumptions might not be the only way things have to be.”—
At this late date, fanfiction has become wildly more biodiverse that the canonical works that it springs from. It encompasses male pregnancy, centaurification, body swapping, apocalypses, reincarnation, and every sexual fetish, kink, combination, position, and inversion you can imagine and probably a lot more that you could but would probably prefer not to. It breaks down walls between genders and genres and races and canons and bodies and species and past and future and conscious and unconscious and fiction and reality. Culturally speaking, this work used to be the job of the avant garde, but in many ways fanfiction has stepped in to take that role. If the mainstream has been slow to honor it, well, that’s usually the fate of aesthetic revolutions. Fanfiction is the madwoman in mainstream culture’s attic, but the attic won’t contain it forever.
Anne Jamison. Fic: Why Fanfiction is Taking Over the World. 2013
Cas and Dean's character arcs have been parallels since Season 5. I mean think about it:
Dean Season 1:Looking for his dad, but ultimately loses faith in him for failing to protect his family.
Castiel Season 5:Looking for his dad, but ultimately loses faith in him for failing to protect his family.
Dean end of Season 2:Makes a stupid decision (with the ultimate intention of protecting his family) that’s going to cost him his life.
Castiel end of Season 6:Makes a stupid decision (with the ultimate intention of protecting his family) that’s going to cost him his life.
Dean Season 3:Deals with the consequences of his actions and ultimately goes to Hell at the end of the season.
Castiel Season 7:Deals with the consequences of his actions and ultimately goes to Purgatory at the end of the season.
Dean Season 4:Has done some terrible things and no longer thinks he deserves to be saved; is brought out of Hell by angels, who want him for their own purposes.
Castiel Season 8:Has done some terrible things and no longer thinks he deserves to be saved; is brought out of Purgatory by angels, who want him for their own purposes.
Dean Season 5:running from the angels; sam sacrifices himself to save the world; anti-climactic goodbye between dean and cas before dean attempts to act out his dream of having a normal life with a family
Castiel end of Season 8:running from the angels; sam tries to sacrifice himself to save the world; anti-climactic goodbye between dean and cas before cas attempts to act out his dream of fixing his family
Dean Season 6:questioning where he belongs and who he is and who his family is; he's betrayed and lied to by cas about sam and crowley; ultimately gives up ben and lisa and loses cas to possession
Castiel Season 9:questioning where he belongs and who he is and who his family is; he's betrayed and lied to by dean about sam and the mark of cain; ultimately gives up his angel army/family and loses dean to the mark
Dean Season 7:depressed, mourning for and pining over cas
Castiel Season 10:depressed, mourning for and pining over dean??
Hey, sorry if this is super obvious but I've noticed that many people in the fandom don't like Singer and I was wondering if you could explain me why? I'm kinda new to the show and I don't know if it's something he's said or done or what
Well, he’s a brosonly fan.
He’s probably one of the principle reasons why Misha was fired and Castiel killed off in S7.
He pestered Misha when his wife was in labor for two days and asked him if he could just have the kid surgically removed.
He is married to Eugenie Ross-Leming, who with her writing partner Brad Buckner, writes the worst episodes in the show’s history. And they are clearly only there because Singer is showing her favoritism. They wrote one episode in S1—and then never again during the Kripke years which actually lasted through S6. In fact, Kripke called the episode they wrote “bad writing” on the show (Chuck says the line). Then in S7 when Kripke is gone and Singer I think has bullied Gamble into writing a crappy S7 and consequently getting her fired (or she left in frustration), all of a sudden the Disaster Duo are back. And by S8 they are writing 4 episodes a season, jumping ahead of all the writers that have seniority over them. Why? Because Singer is an executive producer.
I also think he’s responsible for the backpedaling on the Dean/Cas story line in S9 and Ben Edlund’s departure from the show.
He’s also just a narcissistic jerk.
He’s also tacky and classless. He did a “charity” auction at a con once, and while most people do charities that are like help kids and save dogs, he auctioned off two extremely rare items for a lot of money to support what is technically a lobby group—not a charity. It was for a group that is against capital punishment. Now regardless of your feelings on the matter—it is super tacky to bring politics into that kind of situation.
He also Cockles-blocked at SDCC 13.
There are sources for all of these (except the Edlund and Gamble things, those are my own personal conspiracy theories), but I don’t feel like looking them up. Sorry.